kudil 373 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Scheint so das bei Manila ein Reisebus entführt wurde, 22 Koreaner und 3 Einheimische sollen in der Gewalt der Entführer sein. Die Entführer sollen von einem ehemaligen hohen Polizisten angeführt werden. Link to post Share on other sites
Pormuu 106 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Das ist tatsächlich so: http://www.zeit.de/news-nt/2010/8/23/iptc-hfk-20100823-24-26068124xml Link to post Share on other sites
finearts74 335 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Hier auf Bild.de: http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/telegramm/news-ticker,rendertext=13716056.html Und Focus online: http://www.focus.de/panorama/welt/manila-ex-polizist-kapert-bus-mit-touristen_aid_544180.html Was diese Menschen (der EX-Polizist) sich so denken... "Ich nehm jetzt mal ein paar Geiseln, dann stellen die mich bestimmt wieder ein. Und es läuft weiter wie vorher." Krank, einfach nur krank. Link to post Share on other sites
Wizard 1,677 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/2010/08/23/geiselnahme-philippinen/ex-polizist-kidnappt-touristen-bus-mehr-als-20-geiseln.html Link to post Share on other sites
Pormuu 106 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Das Geiseldrama ist offenbar blutig zu Ende gegangen - sowohl für den Geiselnehmer als auch einen Teil der Geiseln: http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/manila148.html Ich finde es erschreckend, mit welch primitiver Ausstattung die Polizei vorgehen musste. Das Video ist nichts für schwache Gemüter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaveW7LAFqE Grüße Pormuu 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Guender 392 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Wieso nix für schwache Gemüter ? Ist ja kaum was zu erkennen. Gruß, Güny Link to post Share on other sites
Wizard 1,677 Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Also ich glaube bei dem Vorgehen der Cops würden sich bei der GSG9 alle Haare zu Berge stellen Link to post Share on other sites
boxerr 3,437 Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Mittlerweile hat sich die Zahl der Todesopfer auf 10 erhöht, Hongkong hat eine Reisewarnung für die Philippinen ausgesprochen und die Verantwortlichen auf den Philippinen aufgefordert, Sicherheitskonzepte vorzulegen, um solche Ereignisse in Zukunft zu vermeiden. Link to post Share on other sites
andersals 284 Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Schaut hier http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n-URYhN848 oder hier http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbug3PFB66E&feature=related Link to post Share on other sites
Hotrod1 3,754 Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Ein paar "Hintergrundinformationen" / verschiedene Links (Reports)... hmmm, halt auf Englisch ("sorry")...: http://ph.yfittopostblog.com/2010/08/24/users-weigh-in-who%E2%80%99s-to-blame/ http://ph.yfittopostblog.com/2010/08/25/philippines-in-national-day-of-mourning-for-slain-tourists/ http://ph.news.yahoo.com/gma/20100825/tph-cop-rejects-calls-for-resignation-ov-d6cd5cf.html http://ph.news.yahoo.com/gma/20100824/tph-church-shares-blame-for-violent-host-d6cd5cf.html http://ph.yfittopostblog.com/2010/08/24/security-experts-angry-over-manila-hostage-drama/ http://ph.news.yahoo.com/afp/20100824/tap-philippines-crime-hijack-hongkong-an-5cc1ef8.html http://ph.yfittopostblog.com/2010/08/24/manila-hostage-crisis-responsible-or-irresponsible-media-coverage/ http://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/Philippine-hostage-fiasco-afpsg-3504717268.html?x=0 http://ph.yfittopostblog.com/2010/08/24/aquino-to-send-delegates-to-hong-kong/ Link to post Share on other sites
finearts74 335 Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Also, wenn ich dieses Video sehe, dann wünsch ich mir echt, nie in eine Situation zu kommen, in der ich auf die Hilfe der philippinischen Poizei angewiesen bin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2WkZi1xago Da verliert der eine beim Einschlagen der Tür den Vorschlaghammer. Und in der Situation hätte ein Scharfschütze die besten Chancen gehabt. Unbegreiflich. Dass dort dann doch noch Überlebende rausgekommen sind ist ein Wunder. Link to post Share on other sites
Wizard 1,677 Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Das habe ich mir auch gedacht, vor allem wie oft der über den Tag verteilt frei an der Tür stand... Er hat ja sogar den Leuten gewunken. Mich würde mal interessieren ob man ihm das Angebot gemacht hat das er seinen Job wieder haben kann und ihn versucht hat diplomatisch aus dem Bus zu hohlen ? Link to post Share on other sites
louis1 13 Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Das habe ich mir auch gedacht, vor allem wie oft der über den Tag verteilt frei an der Tür stand... Er hat ja sogar den Leuten gewunken. Mich würde mal interessieren ob man ihm das Angebot gemacht hat das er seinen Job wieder haben kann und ihn versucht hat diplomatisch aus dem Bus zu hohlen ? das waren auch genau meine überlegungen....warum nicht zum schein auf das angebot eingehen? alles, was den geiseln nützt, sollte doch wohl ausgeschöpft werden, bevor man einfach drauflosballert, wie die bekloppten :wallbash: aber wie schon geschrieben....besser man muß sich nicht auf die dortige polizei verlassen und noch besser===>>hoffentlich läßt einen die polizei in den phils auch schön in ruhe... :victory: Link to post Share on other sites
Hotrod1 3,754 Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=606211&publicationSubCategoryId=63&newsalert http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=606217&publicationSubCategoryId=63&newsalert http://ph.news.yahoo.com/afp/20100826/tap-philippines-crime-hijack-hongkong-5cc1ef8.html http://ph.yfittopostblog.com/2010/08/25/palace-pleads-dont-trivialize-the-hostage-crisis/ http://ph.yfittopostblog.com/2010/08/25/aquino-we-beg-for-your-understanding/ http://ph.yfittopostblog.com/2010/08/25/jackie-chan-expresses-grief-over-hostage-drama/ http://ph.news.yahoo.com/gma/20100826/tph-france-advises-nationals-to-be-vigil-d6cd5cf.html http://ph.yfittopostblog.com/2010/08/25/video-reactions-to-the-hostage-crisis-in-manila/ http://ph.news.yahoo.com/ap/20100825/tap-as-philippines-bus-hostages-fe2a5de.html http://ph.news.yahoo.com/gma/20100825/tph-senators-nix-news-blackout-during-ho-d6cd5cf.html http://ph.news.yahoo.com/gma/20100826/tph-mpd-chief-my-conscience-is-clear-i-w-d6cd5cf.html http://ph.video.yahoo.com/watch/8139926/21577944 http://www.facebook.com/presidentnoy Link to post Share on other sites
Hotrod1 3,754 Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Interesting Twitter post, Not sure how real it is. I would really love to be in the debreif on this. Hear the hostages stories and the the SWAT team stories. On Tuesday 24th August 2010, @BiebsYabadabado said: reply Postcripts To A BloodBath by Eric Po on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 Mr. Mendoza was already upset even before he saw on television what the policemen did to his brother. The other tourists who remained inside the bus were complaining. Wei Ji Jiang wanted to go to the bathroom. Dao Chi Yu was hungry and the rest were just groaning and whining like they have forgotten that our lives rest in Mr. Mendoza's hands. The hostage taker, as you know him was really nice. He treated us okay and even let the elders and the children leave the bus. He said your policemen treated him unfairly. He was a policeman too and was accused of doing something he had no knowledge of. But your government didn't listen so he used us to get everyone's attention. Things would have never turned for the worst if he didn't see how his family was dragged out of their house and taken into custody. He was watching the news all the time as we huddled around each other behind the bus. He shouted some words in your language then started shooting in the air. A girl about my age started screaming. Mr. Mendoza demanded her to stop but she didn't understand English. God, he had to slash her neck with a knife just to put her to rest. Her boyfriend who tried to hit him was shot in the head. Tension was rising. You can see in his face how scared and confused he was. The bus driver ran away leaving him alone with strangers from a distant land. I can see him walking across the aisle, sometimes pointing his machine gun to one of the tourists. But he tried his best not to hurt us, especially those who really cooperate. I guess its in your nature not to inflict pain on others unless it was necessary. I remember him saying that he will free us before sundown and implored us to forget everything when we return home. But his words don't matter now. The policemen were trying to force their way in, while we all lied down to shield ourselves from bullets. Mister Mendoza blindly shoots at his enemies which I think kept them from rescuing us. I hear sobs under the chairs. Some were even shouting the names of their loved ones even when the air merely eat their words. Kevin Tang tried to escape when the glass door was was shattered, but one shot and he slumped on the floor with blood gushing from his mouth. Heavy rain pitter-pattered on the rooftop. In old Chinese saying, it means an end to a struggle. Finally, somebody was able to open the escape hatch at the back of the bus. Freedom. But I knew Mister Mendoza was still alive. I knew he was just waiting for a chance to strike back at his enemies. So I told those around me not to escape. Let the authorities come for us instead. Then there was gunfire. He was firing at his enemies with a machine gun. Those who were at the escape hatch fled abandoning us once again. It's like a nightmare with no end and to wake up means a certain death. Then somebody from outside the bus threw a canister. It forced out a black smoke that is so painful to the eyes and putrid smelling to the nose. People started screaming. We cannot breathe. Some ran in front of the bus but Mister Mendoza warned them of stray bullets. It was too late. One was hit on the head, the other was hit on the shoulders. Bullets were now flying. Its like the authorities thought we were all dead. Mister Mendoza finally admits his mistake and said sorry to everyone, dead or alive. He then ran towards the front of the bus where he would meet his maker. As he passed by my chair with bullets whistling overhead, I clutched my hand on the velvet curtain and wrapped it around my face. All I could think of was to stay alive - for my child who is waiting for me back in Xinjang. I know I will survive, I will come home. Bang Lu Min Survivor, Quirino Bloodbath . Link to post Share on other sites
Hotrod1 3,754 Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 2 "spezielle" Photos...: Link to post Share on other sites
boxerr 3,437 Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Der grösste Fehler bei dieser Geiselnahme war in meinem Augen die Live-Übertragung ins TV, wir in D haben ja schon vor über 20 Jahren schlechte Erfahrungen mit Live TV von Entführungen gehabt, die älteren erinnern sich bestimmt noch an das Geiseldrama von Gladbeck mit insgesamt 3 Toten. Die Öffentlichkeit hat bei solchen Verbrechen einfach nichts verloren. Link to post Share on other sites
Eddy Torrence 709 Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Also ich glaube bei dem Vorgehen der Cops würden sich bei der GSG9 alle Haare zu Berge stellen Aber 100%! Und diese Dilettanten nennen sich Spezialeinheit! Unfassbar! Was kann man dann erst von der "normalen" Streifenpolizei erwarten? Wenn das alles nicht so traurig wäre, könnte man glatt drüber lachen! Eddy Link to post Share on other sites
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